{"product_id":"in-vaikuntha-not-even-leaves-fall-treatise-on-bondage-of-jiva-old-and-rare-book-idg271","title":"IN VAIKUNTHA NOT EVEN THE LEAVES FALL: A TREATISE ON THE BONDAGE OF THE JIVA (An Old and Rare Book )","description":"\u003ch2 class=\"title is-size-3-desktop is-size-5-touch has-text-centered product-details-description-title\"\u003eBook Specification\u003c\/h2\u003e\u003ctable\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd class=\"product-details-specifications-label has-text-grey-dark\"\u003eItem Code:\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003eIDG271\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd class=\"product-details-specifications-label has-text-grey-dark\"\u003eAuthor:\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/book-author\/satya%20narayanakundali%20dasa\/\" class=\"underlined\" title=\"SATYA NARAYANAKUNDALI DASA\"\u003eSATYA NARAYANAKUNDALI DASA\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd class=\"product-details-specifications-label has-text-grey-dark\"\u003ePublisher:\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/book-publisher\/jiva%20institute%20vrindavan\/\" class=\"underlined\" title=\"Jiva Institute, Vrindavan\"\u003eJiva Institute, Vrindavan\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd class=\"product-details-specifications-label has-text-grey-dark\"\u003eLanguage:\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003eEnglish\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd class=\"product-details-specifications-label has-text-grey-dark\"\u003eEdition:\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e1994\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd class=\"product-details-specifications-label has-text-grey-dark\"\u003ePages:\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e325\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd class=\"product-details-specifications-label has-text-grey-dark\"\u003eCover:\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003eHardcover\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd class=\"product-details-specifications-label has-text-grey-dark\"\u003eOther Details\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd rel=\"product-dimensions\"\u003e8.5\"X5.5\"\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd class=\"product-details-specifications-label has-text-grey-dark\"\u003eWeight\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd rel=\"product-weight\"\u003e570 gm\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003c\/table\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003ch2 class=\"title is-size-3-desktop is-size-5-touch has-text-centered product-details-description-title\"\u003eBook Description\u003c\/h2\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"product-details-description\" style=\"max-height: 63rem; overflow-y: auto;\"\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e \u003cb\u003eExcerpts from Jaiva \u003ca href=\"\/article\/dharma-for-modern-man\/\"\u003eDharma\u003c\/a\u003e by Bhaktivinoda Thakura :\u003c\/b\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e \u003cb\u003eBabaji:\u003c\/b\u003e There are unlimited \u003ci\u003ejivas\u003c\/i\u003e who are eternal associates of the Lord. In Goloka Vrndavana they are manifested by Lord Baladeva for the service of Lord Krsna. In Vaikuntha they are manifested by Sri Sankarsana for the service of Lord Narayana, the Lord of Vaikuntha. They are eternally and blissfully engaged in the service of their svarupa, always striving to make the Lord happy, always favorable to the service of the Lord, and always powerful with the energy of the \u003ci\u003ecit-sakti. \u003c\/i\u003e They have absolutely no relation or contact with the inert \u003ci\u003emaya. \u003c\/i\u003e Indeed, they do not even know that there is an energy called \u003ci\u003emaya. \u003c\/i\u003e Because they live in the spiritual region, \u003ci\u003emaya\u003c\/i\u003e remains very far from them. They are always absorbed in the bliss of service to their worshipable Lord. They are transcendental to mundane misery and happiness and are always liberated. Their very life is love, and they have no conception of lamentation, fear, and death.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e The atomic conscious \u003ci\u003ejivas, \u003c\/i\u003e who come out like rays from Maha-Visnu's glance at \u003ci\u003emaya, \u003c\/i\u003e are also uncountable. Being in proximity to \u003ci\u003emaya, \u003c\/i\u003e these \u003ci\u003ejivas\u003c\/i\u003e see the variegatedness of maya. They have all the characteristics of the ordinary \u003ci\u003ejivas\u003c\/i\u003e as described before, yet because of their atomic nature they sometimes glance marginally towards the spiritual creation and sometimes towards the material creation. In this marginal state the \u003ci\u003ejiva\u003c\/i\u003e is weak, because he has not yet attained spiritual power by the mercy of the worshipable Lord. Out of these unlimited \u003ci\u003ejivas, \u003c\/i\u003e the ones who desire to enjoy maya remain eternally bound by \u003ci\u003emaya, \u003c\/i\u003e because of being attached to sense enjoyment. Those who engage in devotional service to the Lord go to the spiritual world getting the strength of the \u003ci\u003ecit-sakti\u003c\/i\u003e by the mercy of the Lord...\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e \u003cb\u003eVrajanatha:\u003c\/b\u003e Lord Krsna is the embodiment of mercy. Why did He make the \u003ci\u003ejiva\u003c\/i\u003e weak and thereby cause his bondage by \u003ci\u003emaya\u003c\/i\u003e? (Note: \u003ci\u003eJiva\u003c\/i\u003e here refers only to the conditioned souls).\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e \u003cb\u003eBabaji:\u003c\/b\u003e It is right that Krsna is merciful, but He is also \u003ci\u003elilamaya, \u003c\/i\u003e or one who performs only \u003ci\u003elila. \u003c\/i\u003e Considering that various types of lilas will be performed under various situations, the Lord made the \u003ci\u003ejiva\u003c\/i\u003e competent for unlimited gradations of positions from the marginal state up to the topmost platform of mahabhava. To facilitate the \u003ci\u003ejivas\u003c\/i\u003e and make them firm in their competence for these various positions, He created many low levels associated with \u003ci\u003emaya\u003c\/i\u003e which present unlimited obstacles in the attainment of the Supreme bliss. These range from the lowest inert matter up to false ego. The living entities bound by \u003ci\u003emaya\u003c\/i\u003e are in ignorance of their svarupa, engaged in acquiring pleasure for themselves, and not devoted to Krsna. In this state, as much as the \u003ci\u003ejiva\u003c\/i\u003e goes down that much more the merciful Lord, becoming manifest before him along with the facility to attain the ultimate destination. Those \u003ci\u003ejivas\u003c\/i\u003e who accept that facility try to achieve this highest destination. Gradually they reach the transcendental abode of the Lord and attain the exact same status as His eternal associates.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e \u003cb\u003eBack of Book:\u003c\/b\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e There are two kinds of living entitles. Nitya-baddha means ever-conditioned. Ever-conditioned means those who are in this material world, they do not know when they came in touch with this material world. Neither do they know when they will be liberated. They are called nitya-baddha, ever-conditioned. And similarly, there are nitya-siddhas. Nitya-siddha means they never come in contact with this material world, and even they come here for some business, they do not forget their position. That is nitya-siddha. Try to understand. (Bg. Lecture, 1973)\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e The position of the nitya-siddhas is explained in the Padma Purana in connection with the narration of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and Satyabhama-devi. The Lord tells Satyabhama, \"My dear Satyabhama-devi, I have descended to this earthly planet by the request of Lord Brahma and other demigods. Those who are born into this family of Yadu are all My eternal associates. My dear wife, you should not consider that My associates are ever separated from Me; they are My personal expansions, and as such, you must know that they are almost as powerful as I am. Because of their transcendental qualities, they are very, very dear to Me, as I am very, very dear to them.\" (Nectar of Devotion)\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e \u003c\/p\u003e \u003ccenter\u003e \u003cb\u003ePreface\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/center\u003e \u003cp\u003e This book has five parts or waves. Each wave is divided into chapters. The book should be read in order because information presented often builds on the earlier chapters. There is also some repetition of key points and arguments.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e In the First Wave we present the siddnente of our perempere and the verdict of the sestre on the jiva's bondage. We also cite numerous references from Srila Prabhupada that no one falls from vaikuntha. The last three chapters explain the word enedi. A clear understanding of this word is very important, for it leaves no room for doubt as to the origin of the jiva in conditioned exist- ence.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e In the Second Wave, while establishing that preaching does not always mean presenting the siddhanta, we cite some histori- cal examples of such preaching strategy being used by our pre- decessor acaryas, including Srila Vyasadeva. We also show that reconciling is one of the important duties of faithful followers of the spiritual master, and that logic based on sastra has a vital role in such reconciliation. We conclude this wave by reconciling the siddnanta of no fall from Vaikuntha with Srlia Prabhupada's statements that we fell from vaikuntha.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e In the Third Wave we refute the main objections of those who believe that the jiva fell from the spiritual world to become a con- ditioned soul. Throughout this book, for the sake of brevity, we refer to them as fall-vadis. Here we also refute the attempts to support the tau-vaca theory found in the first two chapters of the book Once We Were With Krsna.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e In the Fourth Wave we present nineteen chapters filled with many wonderful scriptural and logical arguments of further evi- dence in favor of the no-fall down siddhanta. The Fifth Wave is only one chapter. Here we list the many philosophical inconsis- tencies in accepting that nitya-siddhas can fall from Vaikuntha as our siddhanta and give our concluding remarks.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e \u003c\/p\u003e \u003ccenter\u003e \u003cb\u003eIntroduction\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/center\u003e \u003cp\u003e This book is the result of controversy. In writing it we were advised to downplay the controversial aspect \"because a book on siddhanta should not explicitly bring out controversy.\" Another reason given is that we must be careful not to date the book. Upon consideration, however, we could not agree with either view. Without the controversy we would not have written the book. Why should this historical fact be hidden?\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e Further, we also have the example of our previous acaryas. In their writings they often dealt openly with controversy. We find that there is wisdom in this, for by making it open there is less chance that the same circumstances that caused the controversy will recur.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e In the ISKCON community this particular controversy-where did the con- ditioned jiva come from or \"the jiva-issue\"-has been smoldering for many years. Now, with the publication of this book, we hope to end the confusion. In the ISKCON community this particular controversy-where did the conditioned jiva come from or ''the jiva-issue\"-has been smoldering for many years. Now, with the publication of this book, we hope to end the confusion. But the confu- sion may not end. In the Priti-sandarbha, srila jiva Gosvami explains why. He says there are three types of discussions-vada, jalpa, and vitanda. In a veda discussion the motive of all concerned is to find out the truth. This is the ideal kind of discussion. It is for persons who are sober and impartial about the outcome; they simply want to know what is the truth of the matter. They are in the mode of goodness. Jalpa is a discussion wherein one is not interested in what is said by others, whether it has some truth or all of the truth, because one simply wants to be heard. Any other view or contribution is of no interest. This is the way for a person in the mode of passion. A vitanda discussion is in the mode of ignorance. In this version the truth is of no value. One simply wants to win at all costs. We believe that this book will clear the confusion for those persons interested in vada.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e Our committment to writing a book on the jiva-issue began when the fol- lowing letter was posted to the GBC conference on COM:\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e Text 31415: 27-Aug-9418:16 EDT 1167linesl LINK: Drutakarma (Dasa)\u003cbr\u003e ACBSP (Alachua)\u003cbr\u003e Reply-To: Drutakarma. ACBSP@iskcon.com\u003cbr\u003e Receiver: GBC Body \u0026lt;20\u0026gt;\u003cbr\u003e Subject: once we were with Krsna\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e Dear GBC members,\u003cbr\u003e Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.\u003cbr\u003e Lately I have been receiving inquiries from GBC members, BBTTrust- ees, and temple presidents about my forthcoming book \"Once We Were With Krsna\", which shows conclusively that Srila Prabhupada's teach- ing was just as the title says, and that this is in complete harmony with 'Srimad-Bhagavatam\" and the teachings of our previous acharyas go- ing back to Lord Caitanya. One controversial feature of this book is that I am directly naming those who hold opposing views and answering them point by point. Since copies of the drafts of some chapters are floating around, by Xerox and computer, I thought it best to make sure all of you, and not just some of you, have an opportunity to see what is coming. The second chapter, on Srila Prabhupada's teachings, is at- tached to this message. I am attaching the first chapter, on evidence from 'Srimad-Bhagavatam\" to another message. The third and final chapter, on the teachings of the previous acharyas, is still being writ- ten, but as soon as it is finished I will send it to you. I am also including below the text of a letter to one of the GBC members. It explains why I am taking the step of bringing out this book. Originally, I intended to send it to just that one member, but since interest in the whole issue seems to be widening, I am sending it to all the members.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e Dear---- Prabhu,\u003cbr\u003e Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e Like you, I share an interest that Srila Prabhupada's teachings remain the central focus of ISKCON, and that they be passed down to the next generation unchanged. I fear, however, that all of this is now endan- gered.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e The specific point of my concern is Srila Prabhupada's teachings on the origin of the jiva. Srila Prabhupada addressed this issue many times, and said we have come \"from Vaikuntha planet,\" we were \"with Krsna in His lila,\" etc. It has been said that Srila Prabhupada's views are not supported by shastra and previous acharyas. But my rather extensive investigation of these accusations reveals that they are un- founded. I can produce dozens of statements from Bhaktivinoda Thakura and Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati that are exactly in line with Srila Prabhupada's teachings. Support for the idea that the jiva was origi- nally with Krishna can also be found in the Bhagavatam and other works. There is nothing in the Sandarbhas of Jiva Goswami that contradicts Srila Prabhupada's teachings, despite the claims of Satyanarayana and Kundali, and others such as Bhanu Swami. I say this on the basis of my own study and on the authority of Gopiparanadhana Prabhu, who has closely examined the relevant passages. One might say, well, perhaps we are just dealing with a case of a transcendental disagree- ment among acharyas. The problem is that one of the acharyas is our founder-acharya. So even if one wants to accept that, then it is clear that in ISKCON we have to take sides, the side of Srila Prabhupada. But I am convinced there is no difference between Srila Prabhupada and any of the major acharyas in our line going back to Lord Caitanya. Some of Srila Prabhupada's God brothers or disciples of his God broth- ers may have different opinions, but in one hundred years nose of them will be recognized as a great acharya, whereas Srila Prabhupada's place in history as one of the greatest acharyas ever is already as- sured.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e You have asked if there is any role that the GBC could play in resolving this issue. I am not at all hopeful that the GBC can actually do what needs to be done, because so many of the members are doubt- ful about what Srila Prabhupada said. Some of them, I suspect, actu- ally agree with the position taken by Kundali and Satyanarayana that Srila Prabhupada spoke untruths to his disciples because they were too neophyte to understand the real siddhanta. That is so out of char- acter for Srila Prabhupada that it is hard for me to see how any ISKCON devotee could accept it, unless they are ill-motivated or influenced by someone who is ill-motivated.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e Basically, I think this issue will be settled, if at all, in the market- place of ideas, where I am accustomed to function in a direct and con- frontational manner. Nevertheless, I will outline a series of actions that I think the GBC could take to deal with the issue, if it so desired.\u003c\/p\u003e \u003cp\u003e \u003c\/p\u003e \u003ccenter\u003e \u003cb\u003eCONTENTS\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/center\u003e \u003cp\u003e \u003c\/p\u003e \u003ctable width=\"100%\"\u003e \u003ctbody\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003e\u003cb\u003ePreface\u003c\/b\u003e\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e viii\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003e\u003cb\u003eIntroduction\u003c\/b\u003e\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e ix\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd colspan=\"2\"\u003e \u003ccenter\u003e \u003cb\u003eFirst Wave: Siddhanta\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/center\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003e\u003cb\u003eIntroduction\u003c\/b\u003e\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 1\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER ONE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003e\u003cb\u003eThe Origin Of The Jiva According To Srila Bhaktivinoda\u003c\/b\u003e\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 3\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER TWO\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eMore From The Teachings of Srila Bhaktivinoda\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 15\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER THREE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Origin of The Jiva According To Srila Bhaktisiddhanta\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 21\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER FOUR\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Origin of The Jiva According To Srila Prabhupada\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 27\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER FIVE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eEvidence From Other Acaryas And From Sruti And Smrti\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 37\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER SIX\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eSrila Jiva Gosvami: no One Falls From Vaikuntha\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 41\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER SEVEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eNitya-Muktas Never Contact The Material Energy\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 53\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER EIGHT\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Meaning of Anadi: Part One\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 59\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER NINE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Meaning of Anadi: Part Two\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 67\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER TEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Meaning of Anadi: Part Three\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 77\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd colspan=\"2\"\u003e \u003ccenter\u003e \u003cb\u003eSecond Wave: Reconciliation\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/center\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eIntroduction\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 87\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER ONE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003ePreaching Does Not Always Mean The Siddhanta\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 89\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER TWO\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eLogic Based on Sastra is One of Our Pramanas\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 99\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER THREE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eAll Knowledge Must Rest On Sastra\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 105\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER FOUR\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Svakiya\/Parakiya Controversy\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 109\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER FIVE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eOn Reconciliation And Preaching Strategy\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 113\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER SIX\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eWhy Prabhupada Said We Fell From Vaikuntha\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 123\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER SEVEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003e\"I Did Not Deviate An Inch\"\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 133\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd colspan=\"2\"\u003e \u003ccenter\u003e \u003cb\u003eThird Wave: Objections\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/center\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eIntroduction\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 145\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER ONE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eWhat About The Story of Vaidarbhi And The Brahmana?\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 147\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER TWO\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eDid Sarupa Fall From Goloka?\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 157\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER THREE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eSri Navadvipa Bhava-Taranga\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 165\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER FOUR\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eWhat About The General\/Special Principle?\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 169\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER FIVE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eWhat About Statements Like \"Forgetting Krsna, the Living Entity...?\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 173\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER SIX\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eWhat About Statements That Even Liberated Souls Fall?\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 177\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER SEVEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eWhy Did Srila Prabhupada Call His Magazine Back To Godhead?\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 181\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER EIGHT\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eWhat About The Sequential Stages of The Jiva's Fall?\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 183\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER NINE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eWhat About Our Free Will?\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 187\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER TEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eOnly Those Who Go Back Never Fall Down\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 193\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER ELEVEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eWhat Does it Mean We Are \"Fallen Souls\"?\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 197\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER TWELVE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eWhere Do The Nitya-Baddhas Come From If Not From Vaikuntha?\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 201\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER THIRTEEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eMore Refutations To Once We Were With Krsna\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 205\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd colspan=\"2\"\u003e \u003ccenter\u003e \u003cb\u003eFourth Wave: Additional Evidence\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/center\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eIntroduction\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 215\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER ONE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/article\/bhakti_sutras\/\"\u003eBhakti\u003c\/a\u003e Is Eternal\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 217\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER TWO\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Logic Of Love\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 221\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER THREE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003e\"Bahirmukha\" Does Not Mean Envious\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 223\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER FOUR\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eNo \u003ca href=\"\/book\/Hindu\/sanskrit\/\"\u003eSanskrit\u003c\/a\u003e Term For Fallen Devotees\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 225\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER FIVE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eA Devotee Never Slips or Falls And He Is Not Insane To Jump\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 227\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER SIX\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Lord Gives Bliss And Is Controlled By His Devotees\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 235\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER SEVEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Glories of Devotees\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 241\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER EIGHT\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Lord Protects Even The Relatives Of A Devotee:\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 245\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER NINE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Lord Is A Devotee of His Devotees\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 247\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER TEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eSpiritual Nature Is Eternal\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 251\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER ELEVEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eNitya-Siddhas Are As Good AS Krsna\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 253\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER TWELVE\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Lord Nourishes His Devotees\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 257\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER THIRTEEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Lord Protects His Devotee\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 259\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER FOURTEEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003ePower of Bhakti Performed Once\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 263\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER FIFTEEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eJaya and Vijaya Did Not Fall\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 267\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER SIXTEEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eAssociation of Devotees\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 269\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER SEVENTEEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eKaimutya Nyaya\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 271\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER EIGHTEEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eAdditional Thoughts On Free Will\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 273\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e CHAPTER NINETEEN\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd\u003e \u003cb\u003eThe Verdict of Other Vaisnava Sampradayas\u003c\/b\u003e\n\u003c\/td\u003e \u003ctd\u003e 279\u003c\/td\u003e \u003c\/tr\u003e \u003ctr\u003e \u003ctd colspan=\"2\"\u003e \u003ccenter\u003e 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